Circumcision is not a parenting decision. Your child’s body is not your property, you do not get to make the decision to cut off a functional and healthy organ because you’ve been brainwashed to think that’s what a normal penis should look like.
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The people who clearly require education in this matter are people who do not understand the concept of circumcision as a religious rite of many of the world’s peoples, and also a beneficial practice that has many advocates amongst the medical community. Circumcision is not done merely because mainstream culture has some idea of what “a penis should look like” and time and time again doctors try and prove to the public that the health benefits (which have little to nothing to do with outward appearance) outweigh the made up demerits to the experience. Please research an issue before you make judgmental claims regarding it.
Actually, I was raised as an orthodox Jew in Israel. I’d say I definitely understand circumcision as a religious practice. In fact, I’ve been disowned by a large portion of my family because I decided against circumcision for my son BECAUSE I DID MY RESEARCH. I’d be happy to link you to the information I found if you’d like.
It’s amazing what you find out there when you look past biased sources and your own internal acceptance of the practice.
Well while I was not raised in an Orthodox family (we like to call ourselves ultra ultra ultra reform) I too am from a Jewish background. I am more pro-circumcision when it comes to the health and hygiene aspects of the procedure, but it cannot be dismissed that both the Islamic and Jewish cultures of the world practice ritual circumcision. You have to take into account the feelings of a community before you preach widespread change on a subject. While you personally can make whatever decision you choose regarding your child, and yes it is a parenting decision, you should not be quick to hand down decisions that you believe to be right for the populace at large.
Also, in terms of “biased” sources, I linked to three varied sources, one a well reputed journalistic source, the other a Jewish news source citing recent scientific research, and third one of the most well respected medical centers in the United States, and I fail to see how you can so quickly discredit these sources. You have to be willing to see this issue from multiple sides before you hand down harsh recriminations against those parents who would choose this for your child. Like homeschooling, Santa Claus, and the age you teach your children about the wonders of sexual intercourse, circumcision is a parental decision. Doesn’t matter if you agree with it or not!
Lastly, the very core of your argument bothers me to an extent. If your child was born with a physical deformity such as a cleft pallet, and it was entirely reparable, would you not seek to fix it? This is a parental decision affecting a functioning organ of the human body. Though in this case the organ would be malformed, your child could live a healthy and full life without it ever being fixed. It would be, as you said, only because of a societal definition of something looking normal. If your child needs braces will you ask their permission? When the doctor advises you to vaccinate your baby, will you refuse because the baby cannot itself comply? Parents make decision regarding the health, and the bodies of their children on a constant basis, and the fact you have a nit-picky issue regarding just one of these and presumably not with these others shows how your entire argument is based on fallacious reasoning.
So do you argue that parents should also be allowed to circumcise their daughters? I sure hope so, otherwise that’d make you a fucking hypocrite.
Well I obviously do not believe that seeing as that is almost universally considered to be genital mutilation. Circumcision is a proven medical practice with a large amount of proponents. The anti-circumcision movement is no more insane than the anti-vaccination one. You are choosing to put your child at risk for problems due to your misguided belief that a simple procedure can cause harm. Female circumcision is genital mutilation which can remove most or all feeling from the clitoris. That’s terrible. Pediatricians and research based medical technicians have proved time and time again that the removal of the foreskin does not cause a loss of feeling, that belief is just a by-product of men being overprotective of their genitals and needing a legitimate grievance against a practice that does not have one. I advocate parents enabling medical procedures for their children that have a positive cost benefit analysis.
Not believing in female circumcision does not make me a hypocrite, it shows my advocacy for procedures that are beneficial, and my eschewing those that are not.
Wait wait wait. Did you know that there are different forms of circumcision for both males and females? And did you know that the majority of circumcisions for females are actually mild (relatively speaking to the more horrible forms). Also, if cutting the prepuce of the male helps in cleanliness (which, btw, can be achieved in like ten seconds in the shower), why wouldn’t the same be true of the female prepuce?
"Female circumcision is genital mutilation which can remove most or all feeling from the clitoris"
There are 20k erogenous nerve endings on the male prepuce. There are only 8k on the clitoris. If removing 8k from the outer genitals of a female is terrible, then so is removing 20k from the penis.
"Pediatricians and research based medical technicians have proved time and time again that the removal of the foreskin does not cause a loss of feeling, that belief is just a by-product of men being overprotective of their genitals and needing a legitimate grievance against a practice that does not have one."
Wait wait wait. So you’re telling me that removing 8k erogenous nerve endings from the outer genitals of the female has a profound effect on their pleasure, but removing TWENTY THOUSAND from the male penis has no effect? You’ve GOT to be fucking kidding me!
"You are choosing to put your child at risk for problems due to your misguided belief that a simple procedure can cause harm."
At risk of what? You have NOTHING to back up your claim. Infections are MUCH more likely to occur to a baby who WAS circumcised (due to having an open wound in a dirty diaper) than one who wasnt, UTIs are extremely rare, penile cancers are extremely rare (300 yearly in the UK, out of around 30 MILLION men). Even if it was the case that you could reduce your chance of STD transmission, the same can be done with a FUCKING CONDOM or keeping it in your fucking pants! In the United States there are at least 100 babies that die yearly due to circumcision. Hmmm, let me see, take my chances with a fucking UTI (most of which occur in older men above the 60 yr range and are easily cureable), a penile cancer which is extremely rare (look above) or put my child at risk of bleeding, adhesions/skin bridges, abnormal healing, meatitis, meatal stenosis, urinary retention, phymosis, chordee, hypospadias, epispadias, urethrocutaneous fistula, necrosis of the penis, amputation of the glans, or death? hmmmmm, THATS A FUCKING HARD ONE!